Do you keep asking yourself, “How can I sell my music?” A few days ago, I finished the book Six-Figure Musician, by David Hooper. It’s a great read about how to sell your music and get your name out as a musician. I talked to David about it afterwards, and we did a short, 7 question interview. Enjoy, and don’t forget to read it yourself!
1. Your book, Six Figure Musician, is mainly about how musicians can market
themselves. You clearly know quite a bit about marketing, especially the
psychology behind why people buy and why they share. How did you come by all
this knowledge?

David Hooper, author of the Six-Figure Musican
I started my company in 1995, so I’ve had a few years to figure things
out as far as the psychology of people and what gets them to buy music
(or otherwise take action). The short answer is I do this by observing
what works (and doesn’t work) for others and also by jumping in and
trying things myself. When something doesn’t work, I tweak it and try
it again.
2. One of my favorite quotes is “The only reason you should do anything
online is to back up what you do offline.” I can’t really disagree with this
point, obviously without any music there’s nothing to market. That being
said, online marketing has come a long way in the past few years, and with
services from companies like ReverbNation and CD Baby and social media
sites, artists can accomplish a lot of their advertising online. Do you
think that artists should be focusing more of their energies on these new
electronic forms of marketing, or do traditional methods like flyering still
matter more?
It’s all good, but you need to know how to use it to get the best results.
It’s funny you mention flyering, because most of what musicians do
online is very similar to flyering in that they’re simply posting a
“billboard” about themselves. It may have some multimedia elements,
like audio or video, but it’s still a billboard.
Here is the question to ask — WHAT ACTION DO I WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE?
The online stuff is great, but most musicians simply use sites like
ReverbNation to create a shrine for themselves. When you go there,
there are photos and maybe a few songs to listen to, but then what?
Nothing.
Old school flyers didn’t just say, “BAND NAME!!!” and had a photo –
they had a call to action. A flyer is used for a very specific thing,
like a gig you’re playing this weekend. Musicians need to take this
same philisophy and have a call to action with their online
properties.
Also, when you think about old school flyers, they were better
targeted then what most people are doing with online methods. If you had a
flyer handed to you or put on your car, it was usually in front of the
club where the band was playing or at least in the area. You wouldn’t
go to Seattle to hand somebody a flyer for a gig in Nashville, but
this is the equivalent of what musicians do when they try to target
“everybody” online.
You don’t want to target everybody. You want to target people who can
consume your music fully and that includes coming to your gigs, so
start locally. Then work your way out.
3. In the book, you never outright state your opinion on whether you think
acts should sign with a label or go the indie route (i.e. the one where you
don’t have a label), instead you say it’s a case-by-case basis. Considering
the current state of music distribution, what would your personal preference
be, and why?
I didn’t mention a preference in the book because only the musician
can say what is best. For some people, a major label is a great deal.
Lady Gaga, for example, highly benefits from being on a major label.
She wouldn’t be able to do what she is doing without that kind of
support. On the other hand, most acts are not Lady Gaga and can do a
lot, usually a lot more profitably, without a major label.
The distribution problem has been helped greatly by the fact that most
music is distributed online now, so I wouldn’t sign to a label just to
get into their distribution network. If you’re looking for other
services a major label provides though, that may be a good option for
you, but you’ll have to trade some control of your career to do it.
4. There’s still a lot of controversy out there about money when it comes to
digital distribution, and most have strong opinions one way or the other
about free distribution. However, in your book you seem to advocate giving
away your own albums quite often. I won’t ask whether you support pirating
or not, but answer me this: do you think that selling music by itself will
continue to be a common business practice in the foreseeable future?
Here’s the issue, in my opinion…
People still buy music, but how often can you sell it? An album is $10
(on a good day) and most acts only release an album maybe once a year.
If you have 10,000 fans and they all buy it, that’s $100,000. Not bad
money, but economically, it’s far better to hit those fans up again
and again with higher prices goods and services, such as live events,
shirts, etc.
Piracy has affected things as far as record sales go, or so the record
labels will tell you, but there is also value in having a ton of
people access your music, even if it’s free. How do you get those
10,000 fans? It’s easier to give them music (or let them steal it)
than sell it. And when you do this, it’s easier to sell them something
later.
5. Another quote I really like: “Comfort is the enemy of excellence. This is
one of the reasons so many musicians plateau, and even regress, in their
careers and talent.” So, if you want to have a successful career then you
can’t get comfortable? That’s a tall order man! Do you think many of your
readers will be up to the task?
Most won’t be up to the task. That’s very good news for the people who
are though, becuase it lowers the competition.
If having a successful career in the music business was easy, more
people would be doing it. I’m not saying it’s hard, but it does
require dedication and it’s easy to get thrown off track. You have to
want it enough that you’re able to ignore (or at least successfully
manage) distractions in your life. Everybody, no matter how diligent
they are, gets thrown off track at times. That’s part of it. But to
succeed, you have to get back on track as quickly as possible.
6. Your approach seems to be that slow and steady wins the race. The problem
is, the most visible artists are the ones that made it to the top pretty
damn quick! What’s your advice to musicians who don’t want to wait for
success?
There is a saying that “every overnight sensations takes seven years.”
The artists you think are rising to the top quicky have probably been
around longer than you think. I’m not saying “quick” doesn’t happen,
but rarely are those artists around for a long time, because they
don’t know how to handle success and because the finicky public that
put them on top will only keep them there for a short time.
For somebody wanting to go the “quick” route, my advice is to skip
reading my book and get on television. Go do American Idol, or
X-Factor, or something similar, where you can be all over the place in
just a few weeks.
7. Once a musician starts to gain some success, they also get a lot more
work, and it can be hard to keep up. I was once told that “You don’t look
for a manager. When you’re good enough, a manager looks for you.” Do you
agree with this statement, and in general where would you suggest musicians
look for people to help support their band?
Nobody is going to care about a musician’s career more than the
musician himself, so if you want to get other people involved with
you, you have to show them that you care first. Why would somebody
invest time or money in you if you’re not willing to do it yourself?
If you’re making money, people will find you, because they’ll want a
piece of it. Not only that, but if you’re making money, you’ve already
tested what you’re doing and proven it works, so it’s much easier for
people to come along and help you.
An upcoming musician can probably find a “manager,” most upcoming
musicians have nothing to manage. I suggest getting to the point where
you absolutely can’t handle everything that’s coming your way before
bringing somebody old. This is usually a lot more than most people
thing. Duran Duran and George Thorogood are two examples of bands who
have been self-managed at a big level, so it can definitely be done.
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